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The Truth about the Discovering Juliana Jewelry Group  

Update: August 15, 2008

Continued from Fraud Alert Page

The Truth About the Discovering Juliana Jewelry Group part 2

On the evening of Jan. 12, 2008, just before the first DJJ convention, Janice Young of Tampa Florida, authoritarian leader of the cult-like Discovering Juliana Jewelry group, dumped this e-mail upon the list, in order to start a discussion about "Henry." First, read the entire email.

When I first read this, I neither knew Henry very well, nor the full extent of Jan's lies;  it was easy to think  that maybe someone was using different user names to get Jan's files, though what anyone would want them for, except just to look at, was beyond me. My only reason for being there at that time was because I had won items in the auction (not from Henry) and hadn't received them yet. Having forgotten what the auctions were and who the sellers were, I wanted to look into the auction file. But the file was now password protected, and Jan had, as usual, distained to give me a password. And later I learned what had happened to Henry. Let us go through Jan's email line by line so you can understand as well.

There are actually three different people in the Fred Miller, George Bailey, and Henry trio. Jan made it seem as if one person is using different IDs in the DJJ group, and also made it seem as if he could not be relied upon to send people who bought the jewelry he donated to the group to raise funds for the convention. 

But then, I learned the FACTS:  Jan knew, at the time of the writing,  exactly who Henry and George are. Henry is a friend who joined the group and gave Jan thousands of dollars in jewelry and money.  George is a friend and roommate of Henry. George also sometimes used Henry's email account to send email notifying Jan of the delay, which Jan, of course, knew.

Plus, Jan knows exactly who Fred Miller is. Back in November of 2007, Jan herself created the character, Fred Miller,  for Henry,  because he needed to post about his donations and she didn't want him to post to DJJ in his name due to the fact that he had another jewelry email group that she was helping him with. This is crazy reasoning, but this is what she told him and he went along.  So (not trusting him to be as duplicitous as herself) she wrote all the Fred Miller emails, sent them to Henry, and Henry posted them to DJJ. To prove this see Jan's Nov. 7th 2007 Fred Miller email sent to Henry.  Fred Miller is Jan! Here's more proof  Although Jan began to delete the Fred Miller emails from the archive right away, she froze the archives just yesterday to delete more email because knew this was coming. But those on the group  at the time will remember Fred Miller and his posts to DJJ.

What is even worse, Jan knew the packages were on the way, and she knew why they were late. Henry had cancer and had just gone for his second round of chemotherapy. He was extremely ill, too ill to send the packages, so George had to mail the packages of jewels for him. George  goofed on the address of one of them, but all eventually got all except one sent to the buyers.  Read proof in a January 9th email between Jan and George.  In weeks prior, she had also talked to him on the phone when she called Henry in order to wrangle more money out of him, although Henry usually called her, racking up an $800 phone bill. Here's a later email on the same day.  Jan to George email.   

But, Jan's staunch devotees might ask, why would Jan tell such pointless lies? I doubt Jan needs a reason to lie; she does it all the time. But in this case there is a reason:  the rage of a narcissist who doesn't get what she wants, in this case thousands of $$ more from Henry. In  the next couple of paragraphs of the special bulletin,  Jan will (sort of) tell you herself:

The FACTS: Weeks prior, Jan and Henry had discussed Jan's desire to have professional photos of DJJ group members'  best Juliana jewelry.  

It is not necessary for a costume jewelry  group to have a professional photographer; the members of DJJ are for the most part  fine photographers themselves. But clearly Jan wanted even better photos--not for group members, although she  played it off as such, but for herself. Remember, anything produced or purchased within the group is Jan's, and every expense belongs to members of the group. 

During their discussion, Henry promised Jan $300 toward the photographer. The amount they agreed on was clear to Jan. Yet Jan went out and hired a photographer at a charge of $3,000. She tried to get Henry to pay it and he refused, telling her he would give her $300 as agreed.  As far as Jan was concerned, this was the end of their friendship; she could not get any more money out of Henry. Using the group as an outlet for her rage, she lied the them in order to get all of them to disapprove of  Henry as well. Following are more lies, outrageous lies:

Lies, lies, lies.  Shame, shame on Jan Young!  But as Jan goes on, she becomes more and more despicable:

So Jan's ruling is that policies have changed to  become even more restrictive based on  her pretension that untrustworthy persons try to break into the group under different user names.  

But simply making Henry appear unreliable was not good enough for Jan. She had to make him look worse,  the worst thing you can be in Discovering Juliana Jewelry: a picture thief.

Notice  Jan is vague about what was actually going on in the files, if anything, making only suggestions.  But the posts that followed are aptly called the DJJ Hall of Shame, her believers (the know who they are) who reply, do not know what happened either. Nevertheless, they jump  to the conclusions intended. They simply flesh out what Jan has suggested and condemn the foul perpetrator, sympathizing with poor Jan and offering assistance, including money. No one in the DJJ Hall of Shame  knows what happened, if anything, in the albums, only that Jan's devoted album monitor thought the other user was "suspicious."  We don't know, nor do we care what Henry was doing in the albums;  he had a password and a right to be there. If it was George sitting in front of the computer that night, does anyone in their right mind believe that he committed the utmost crime by using Henry's password to look at the forbidden albums? Still, why should anyone care? What can anyone possibly do to albums except copy the pictures--and for what? 

Nothing. But in the insanity of DJJ, the password protected image albums are an ongoing frantic concern, almost a fetish. One of the  most  ridiculous features of this group, the obsession with the image albums, has caused more trouble than anything else. Jan has somehow convinced otherwise intelligent people that it is to their benefit to allow her to assist them in the protection of these images. No one mentions that the images are now Jan's, and the creators of those images have no right to passwords or even to be in the group.  For when the book is prepared, we certainly can't have the pictures available all over the internet. 

At least we  can laugh our heads off at the ridiculous statement "I never heard a word from Fred." 

But what is most chilling is that Jan seemed to have no regard for, or acknowledgement of,  the serious illness that completely upset the lives of Henry and George. Without a thought, she tears down her former friend to get sympathy, trust, and of course, money for the photographer, from her believers. 

Update: August 19, 2008

MANSON GIRLS on RUBY LANE 

We cannot yet name the persons were part of a corp of DJJ members who secretly conducted a flagging campaign on Henry's antique & jewelry shop on Ruby Lane.  We know they were Jan's girls, and are sure to the identity of one of them. But we are still awaiting verification by full header email evidence, other documents or witnesses. 

Meantime, let us explain the flagging system on Ruby Lane, which is a large mall of online antique & artisan stores. Ruby Lane allows store owners to "flag" any item they might find in a member store that they think is not as described. Once an item is flagged, a seller can decide whether to prove the the item is what he says it is, or remove the item from the store. This system does keep fake and non antique items out, but it also sets the stage for a members of a group like DJJ to gang up and attack the listings of another seller with so many flags it's not worth it to keep paying for store space. This is what began to happen to Henry immediately after Jan Young wrote the email to the group casting suspicion on Henry for doing or not doing all sorts of things. Jan Young's  followers tend to become extremely agitated* when DJJ,  its  leader or it's photo albums are threatened or criticized.  Suddenly, so many of his items were flagged, particularly Juliana jewelry, that his income went down by several thousand dollars per month. Here is a portion of a Mon, 21 Jan 2008 email from Ruby Lane that Henry received. He received many of these flags over the next few month, until he was driven to open another website--an those of us who have them know it takes years to establish an independent web site for antiques and jewelry. 

You will realize this flag is clearly from a minion of Jan Young because it mentions Jan's name and phone number, and clearly reveals the DJJ obsession with the image albums. Also, Jan's Manson Girl states it was JAN who verified that Henry's jewelry was NOT in the verification albums:

Here is a picture of one of the flagged items referred to in the above email:

Thanks to a contributor, we can see pieces from same Juliana set, item #315 taken from the DJJ verified 2007 album. 

Next is Henry's image event showing more of the Juliana items flagged 
by the Manson girls who stated the pieces were not Juliana and that Jan had claimed that the pieces were not in the verified albums of DJJ. 

Old link broken, new one coming soon!

Here is Frank DeLizza's email to me, dated today, verifying every item in Henry's image event as D&E--every single piece--as D&E or Juliana.

If you have a shop on Ruby Lane, ask yourself if you would have been able  verify any of your jewelry once you are barred access to DJJ folders containing your photos?  

Good News!

Of course, we now know that Mr. DeLizza has always been willing to verify his jewelry, so if  you are tired of spending hours of confusion, or if you get denied the passwords or are kicked out for talking back, you will be still  able to prove your jewelry is Juliana. To spread the education even wider, we hope to open  a public site of page to present  information about the characteristics of Juliana jewelry, including URLs of sites  with their own verified Juliana album pages, as well as Juliana images that have been liberated by their owners from the password protected albums. It may be weeks before this site is ready to go, but as soon  site is uploaded, those on our email list will be notified. To get these notifications, email me and type into the subject line or body: email list. 

Also, contact me if you have verified Juliana photos to liberate, or  web pages or articles with information on characteristics of DeLizza & Elster Jewelry to contribute or link. You will still own the copyright to all of your material and will be entitled to have that material removed from the central site at your request. 

*to be documented shortly

**You can see the entire email here. 

We will expand this article as information comes in and as documents are organized. This week we will upload more of the email archives that further verify the facts stated in this article. 

DJJ members and other interested parties can be added to a mailing list of updates. Just  email me and type "mailing list" in the subject line.  Just think--your new motto can be FREEDOM FOR JULIANA JEWELRY!  Also, some of the investigation is still ongoing. If anyone has info that can be verified,  do write. 

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